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Vocabulary
8b:1
שְׁמַעִיתShema'is
I heard
מִינֵּיהּMinneih
<<from him,
דְּמָרDemor
שְׁמוּאֵלShemueil
<<from Mar Shmuel,
תַּרְתֵּי:Tartei
<<two [rulings]:
רָכוּבRochuv
<<one riding
וּמַנְהִיג,Vmanhig
<<and one leading —
חַדChad
<<one
קָנֵיKonei
<<acquires
וְחַדVechad
<<and one
לָאLo
<<does not
קָנֵי.Konei
<<acquire;
וְלָאVelo
<<and I do not
יָדַעְנָאYodano
<<know
הֵיHei
<<which
מִינַּיְיהוּ.Minnayyhu
<<of them.
8b:2
הֵיכִיHeichi
דָמֵי?Domei
What are the circumstances?
אִילֵּימָאIlleimo
<<If you say
רָכוּבRochuv
<<riding
לְחוֹדֵיהּLechodeih
<<alone
וּמַנְהִיגVmanhig
<<and leading
לְחוֹדֵיהּLechodeih
<<alone —
מַנְהִיגManhig
<<leading
לְחוֹדֵיהּLechodeih
<<alone,
מִיMi
<<is
אִיכָּאIkko
<<there
מַאןMan
<<anyone
דְּאָמַרDeomar
<<who says
לָאLo
<<he does not
קָנֵי?Konei
<<acquire?
אֶלָּאEllo
<<Rather,
אִיI
<<if
אִיכָּאIkko
<<there is
לְמֵימַרLemeimar
<<to say
דְּלָאDelo
<<that he does not
קָנֵיKonei
<<acquire,
רָכוּבRochuv
<<riding
הוּאHu
<<it is
דְּאִיכָּאDeikko
<<that there is
לְמֵימַר.Lemeimar
<<to say.
8b:3
אֶלָּאEllo
Rather,
רָכוּבRochuv
<<riding
בִּמְקוֹםBimkom
<<in the place of
מַנְהִיגManhig
<<leading
אִיבַּעְיָאIbbayo
<<was a question
לֵיהּ.Leih
<<for him.
מַאי:May
<<What?
רָכוּבRochuv
<<Riding
עָדִיףOdif
<<is stronger,
דְּהָאDeho
<<for
תָּפֵיסTofeis
<<he holds
בַּהּ,Bah
<<it;
אוֹO
דִלְמָאDilmo
<<or perhaps
מַנְהִיגManhig
<<leading
עָדִיףOdif
<<is stronger,
דְּאָזְלָאDeozlo
<<for it goes
מֵחֲמָתֵיהּ?Meichamoseih
<<because of him?
8b:4
אָמַרOmar
רַבRav
יוֹסֵף,Yoseif
Rav Yosef said:
אָמַרOmar
<<said
לִיLi
<<to me
רַבRav
יְהוּדָה:Yehudo
<<Rav Yehuda:
נֶחְזֵיNechzei
<<let us see
אֲנַן,Anan
<<ourselves,
דִּתְנַן:Disnan
<<as we learned:
הַמַּנְהִיגHammanhig
<<one who leads
סוֹפֵגSofeig
<<receives
אֶתEs
הָאַרְבָּעִים,Hoarbo'im
<<the forty [lashes],
וְהַיּוֹשֵׁבVehayyosheiv
<<and the one sitting
בַּקָּרוֹןBakkoron
<<in the wagon
סוֹפֵגSofeig
<<receives
אֶתEs
הָאַרְבָּעִים.Hoarbo'im
<<the forty.
רַבִּיRabbi
מֵאִירMeiir
<<Rabbi Meir
פּוֹטֵרPoteir
<<exempts
אֶתEs
הַיּוֹשֵׁבHayyosheiv
<<the one sitting
בַּקָּרוֹן.Bakkoron
<<in the wagon.
8b:5
וּמִדְּאָפֵיךְVmiddeofeiche
And since reversed
שְׁמוּאֵלShemueil
<<Shmuel
וְתָנֵי:Vesonei
<<and taught:
וַחֲכָמִיםVachachomim
<<and the Sages
פּוֹטְרִיןPoterin
<<exempt
אֶתEs
הַיּוֹשֵׁבHayyosheiv
<<the one sitting
בַּקָּרוֹן,Bakkoron
<<in the wagon,
שְׁמַעShema
מִינַּהּMinnah
<<learn from it:
רָכוּבRochuv
<<riding
לְחוֹדֵיהּLechodeih
<<alone
לָאLo
<<does not
קָנֵי,Konei
<<acquire,
וְכׇלVechol
שֶׁכֵּןShekkein
<<and all the more so
רָכוּבRochuv
<<riding
בִּמְקוֹםBimkom
<<in the place of
מַנְהִיג.Manhig
<<leading
8b:6
אֲמַרAmar
לֵיהּLeih
אַבָּיֵיAbboyei
לְרַבLerav
יוֹסֵף:Yoseif
Abaye said to Rav Yosef:
הָאHo
<<indeed
זִמְנִיןZimnin
<<many
סַגִּיאִיןSaggiin
<<times
אֲמַרְתְּAmart
<<you said
לַן:Lan
<<to us:
נֶחְזֵיNechzei
<<let us see
אֲנַן,Anan
<<ourselves,
וְלָאVelo
<<and you did not
אֲמַרְתְּAmart
<<say
לַןLan
<<to us
מִשְּׁמֵיהּMishemeih
<<in the name
דְּרַבDerav
יְהוּדָה.Yehudo
<<of Rav Yehuda.
8b:7
אֲמַרAmar
לֵיהּ:Leih
He said to him:
אִבְרָא!Ivro
<<Indeed!
וּדְכִירְנָאVdchirno
<<And I remember
נָמֵיNomei
<<also
דַּאֲמַרִיDaamari
<<that I said
לֵיהּ:Leih
<<to him:
הֵיכִיHeichi
<<how
פָּשֵׁיטPosheit
<<does resolve
מָרMor
<<the master
רָכוּבRochuv
<<riding
מִיּוֹשֵׁב?Miosheiv
<<from sitting?
יוֹשֵׁבYosheiv
<<One sitting
לָאLo
<<does not
תָּפֵיסTofeis
<<hold
בְּמוֹסֵירָה,Bemoseiro
<<the reins;
רָכוּבRochuv
<<one riding
תָּפֵיסTofeis
<<holds
בְּמוֹסֵירָה!Bemoseiro
<<the reins!
וַאֲמַרVaamar
<<And said
לִיLi
<<to me:
רַבRav
<<Rav
וּשְׁמוּאֵלVshmueil
<<and Shmuel
דְּאָמְרִיDeomri
תַּרְוַיְיהוּ:Tarvayyhu
<<both say:
מוֹסֵירָהMoseiro
<<reins
לָאLo
<<do not
קָנֵי.Konei
<<acquire.
8b:8
אִיכָּאIkko
דְאָמְרִי,Deomri
Some say:
אֲמַרAmar
לֵיהּLeih
אַבָּיֵיAbboyei
לְרַבLerav
יוֹסֵף:Yoseif
<<Abaye said to Rav Yosef:
הֵיכִיHeichi
<<how
פָּשֵׁיטPosheit
<<does resolve
מָרMor
<<the master
רָכוּבRochuv
<<riding
מִיּוֹשֵׁב?Miosheiv
<<from sitting?
יוֹשֵׁבYosheiv
<<One sitting
לָאLo
<<does not
תָּפֵיסTofeis
<<hold
בְּמוֹסֵירָה,Bemoseiro
<<the reins;
רָכוּבRochuv
<<one riding
תָּפֵיסTofeis
<<holds
בְּמוֹסֵירָה!Bemoseiro
<<the reins!
אֲמַרAmar
לֵיהּ,Leih
<<He said to him:
הָכִיHochi
<<thus
תְּנָאTeno
<<taught
אִידֵּי:Iddei
<<Idi:
מוֹסֵירָהMoseiro
<<reins
לָאLo
<<do not
קָנֵי.Konei
<<acquire.
8b:9
אִתְּמַרIttemar
נָמֵי,Nomei
It was also stated:
אָמַרOmar
רַבִּיRabbi
חֶלְבּוֹChelbo
אָמַרOmar
רַבRav
הוּנָא:Huno
<<Rabbi Chelbo said in the name of Rav Huna:
מוֹסֵירָהMoseiro
<<reins
מֵחֲבֵירוֹMeichaveiro
<<from his fellow
קָנָה.Kono
<<acquire;
בִּמְצִיאָהBimtzio
<<with a found object
וּבְנִכְסֵיVvnichsei
<<and with the property of
הַגֵּרHaggeir
<<a convert
לָאLo
<<they do not
קָנֵי.Konei
<<acquire.
8b:10
מַאיMay
What is
לְשׁוֹןLeshon
<<the meaning of
מוֹסֵירָה?Moseiro
<<“moseirah”?
אָמַרOmar
רָבָא:Rovo
<<Rava said:
אִידִיIdi
<<Idi
אַסְבְּרָאAsbro
<<explained it
לִיLi
<<to me:
כְּאָדָםKeodom
<<like a person
הַמּוֹסֵרHammoseir
<<who hands over
דָּבָרDovor
<<something
לַחֲבֵירוֹ.Lachaveiro
<<to his fellow.
בִּשְׁלָמָאBishlomo
<<Granted,
מֵחֲבֵירוֹMeichaveiro
<<from his fellow
קָנֵי,Konei
<<he acquires,
דְּקָאDeko
<<for
מָסַרMosar
<<handed over
לֵיהּLeih
<<to him
חַבְרֵיהּ.Chavreih
<<his fellow;
אֶלָּאEllo
<<but
בִּמְצִיאָהBimtzio
<<with a found object
וּבְנִכְסֵיVvnichsei
<<and with the property of
הַגֵּרHaggeir
<<a convert
מַאןMan
<<who
קָאKo
מָסַרMosar
<<hands over
לֵיהּLeih
<<to him
דְּלִיקְנֵי?Deliknei
<<that he should acquire?
8b:11
מֵיתִיבִי:Meisivi
They raised an objection:
הָיוּHoyu
<<if there were
שְׁנַיִםShenayim
<<two
רוֹכְבִיןRochevin
<<riding
עַלAl
גַּבֵּיGabbei
<<on
בְּהֵמָהBeheimo
<<an animal,
וְכוּ׳.…
<<etc.
מַנִּי?Manni
<<Whose [view] is it?
אִילֵימָאIleimo
<<If you say
רַבִּיRabbi
מֵאִירMeiir
<<Rabbi Meir —
הַשְׁתָּאHashto
<<now,
יוֹשֵׁבYosheiv
<<if one sitting
קָנֵי,Konei
<<acquires,
רָכוּבRochuv
<<one riding
מִיבְּעֵי?!Mibbe'ei
<<is it necessary?!
אֶלָּאEllo
<<Rather,
לָאוLov
<<is it not
רַבָּנַן,Rabbonan
<<the Rabbis —
וּשְׁמַעVshma
<<so learn
מִינַּהּMinnah
<<from it:
רָכוּבRochuv
<<one riding
קָנֵי.Konei
<<acquires.
8b:12
הָכָאHocho
בְּמַאיBemay
עָסְקִינַןOskinan
Here, with what are we dealing?
בְּמַנְהִיגBemanhig
<<With one leading
בְּרַגְלָיו.Beragloyv
<<with his feet.
אִיI
הָכִי,Hochi
<<If so,
הַיְינוּHayynu
<<that is the same as
מַנְהִיג!Manhig
<<leading!
תְּרֵיTerei
<<Two
גַּוְונֵיGavvnei
<<kinds of
מַנְהִיג,Manhig
<<leading;
מַהוּMahu
דְּתֵימָא:Deseimo
<<lest you say:
רָכוּבRochuv
<<riding
עָדִיף,Odif
<<is stronger,
דְּהָאDeho
<<for
מַנְהִיגManhig
<<he leads
וְתָפֵיסVesofeis
<<and holds
בַּהּ,Bah
<<it;
קָאKo
מַשְׁמַעMashma
לַן.Lan
<<it teaches us [otherwise].
8b:13
תָּאTo
שְׁמַע:Shema
Come and hear:
שְׁנַיִםShenayim
<<two
שֶׁהָיוּShehoyu
<<who were
מוֹשְׁכִיןMoshechin
<<pulling
בְּגָמָל,Begomol
<<a camel
וּמַנְהִיגִיןVmanhigin
<<and leading
בַּחֲמוֹר,Bachamor
<<a donkey,
אוֹO
<<or
שֶׁהָיָהShehoyo
<<that was
אֶחָדEchod
<<one
מוֹשֵׁךְMosheiche
<<pulling
וְאֶחָדVeechod
<<and one
מַנְהִיג,Manhig
<<leading,