will you say [the same]

<<of witnesses,

<<for about

<<what

<<he denied

<<he

<<swears.

Rather,

<<Rav Pappa said:

<<it comes

<<from the extension of

<<an oath

<<of a single

<<witness.

What of

<<the extension of

<<an oath

<<of a single

<<witness —

<<for there

<<an oath

<<drags

<<an oath;

<<will you say [the same]

<<of witnesses,

<<who money

<<obligate!

His own mouth

<<will prove [it].

<<What of

<<his own mouth —

<<for it

<<is not subject

<<to contradiction?

<<A witness

<<single

<<will prove [it],

<<who is subject

<<to contradiction

<<and obligates him in

<<an oath.

What of

<<a single

<<witness —

<<for

<<about

<<what

<<he testifies

<<he

<<swears;

<<will you say [the same]

<<of witnesses,

<<for about

<<what

<<he denied

<<he

<<swears!

<<His own mouth

<<will prove [it].

And the reasoning

<<returns:

<<not

<<the aspect of

<<this

<<is like the aspect of

<<that,

<<and not

<<the aspect of

<<this

<<is like the aspect of

<<that.

<<The side

<<common

<<to them:

<<that through

<<a claim

<<and a denial

<<they

<<come,

<<and he swears.

<<So

<<I

<<will bring

<<witnesses,

<<that through

<<a claim

<<and a denial

<<they

<<come,

<<and he swears.

What of

<<the side

<<common

<<to them —

<<for

<<not

<<has he been established as

<<a denier;

<<will you say [the same]

<<of witnesses,

<<for

<<he has been established as

<<a denier.

And with witnesses

<<is he

<<established as

<<a denier?

<<But didn't Rav Idi bar Avin say in the name of Rav Chisda:

<<one who denies

<<a loan

<<is fit

<<for testimony;

<<a deposit —

<<he is disqualified

<<for testimony.

Rather,

<<he refutes

<<thus:

<<what of

<<the side

<<common

<<to them —

<<for

<<they are not

<<subject to the law of

<<refutation;

<<will you say [the same]

<<of witnesses,

<<who are

<<subject to the law of

<<refutation!

This

<<is not a difficulty:

<<Rabbi Chiya

<<the law of

<<refutation

<<does not

<<refute with.

But

<<that he said

<<“and our tanna

<<taught the same” —

<<is it comparable?

<<There,

<<the lender

<<has

<<witnesses;

<<the borrower

<<has no

<<witnesses

<<that he does not

<<owe

<<him

<<anything;

<<for if

<<he had

<<witnesses

<<— the borrower —

<<that he does not

<<owe

<<him

<<anything,

<<not

<<would require

<<Rabbi Chiya

<<that he swear;

<<here,

<<just as

<<we

<<are witnesses

<<for this one,

<<we

<<are witnesses

<<for that one,

<<and even

<<so

<<they swear!

Rather,

<<when

<<it was stated,

<<“and our tanna

<<taught the same”

<<about the other [teaching]

<<of Rabbi Chiya

<<it was stated.

<<For Rabbi Chiya said:

<<“a maneh

<<I have

<<in your hand,”

<<and the other

<<says:

<<“you have

<<nothing

<<in my hand

<<except

<<fifty

<<zuz,

<<and here it is” —

<<he is obligated.

What is the reason?

<<“here it is”

<<too

<<is like one who admits

<<part of

<<the claim

<<is.

And our tanna

<<taught the same:

<<two

<<who are holding

<<a garment.

And here,

<<here,

<<since

<<he is holding,

<<we

<<are witnesses

<<that what

<<he holds

<<“here it is”

<<it is,

<<and it teaches:

<<he shall swear.

And Rav Sheshes

<<said:

<<“here it is”

<<is exempt.

<<What is the reason?

<<Since

<<he said

<<to him

<<“here it is,”

<<these

<<coins

<<that he

<<admits

<<about them

<<are like one

<<who holds

<<them —

<<the lender —

<<they are;

<<about the other

<<fifty

<<indeed

<<he does not

<<admit,

<<therefore

<<there is no

<<admission of

<<part of

<<the claim.

And according to Rav Sheshes,

<<difficult is

<<our Mishnah!

<<He could say to you,

<<Rav Sheshes:

<<our Mishnah

<<is an enactment of

<<the Sages

<<it is.

And the other?

<<Indeed,

<<an enactment of

<<the Sages

<<it is;

<<but

<<if you say, granted,

<<that by Torah law

<<“here it is”

<<is obligated,

<<enacted

<<the Rabbis

<<an oath

<<like

<<a Torah oath;

<<but

<<if you say

<<that by Torah law

<<“here it is”

<<is exempt —

<<would enact

<<the Rabbis

<<an oath

<<that has no

<<like it

<<in Torah law?

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