MISHNAH:

<<Rabbi Yehuda

<<says:

<<may weigh

<<a person

<<meat

<<against

<<the vessel

<<or

<<against

<<the cleaver.

<<And the Sages

<<say:

<<one may not pay attention

<<to the scale

<<at all.

GEMARA:

<<What is

<<“at

<<all”?

<<Rav Yehuda said in the name of Shmuel:

<<even

<<to guard it

<<from

<<the mice.

<<Rav Idi bar Avin said:

<<and that is

<<where it hangs

<<on the balance hook.

And Rav Yehuda said in the name of Shmuel:

<<a butcher

<<who is a craftsman

<<is prohibited

<<to weigh

<<meat

<<by hand.

<<And Rav Yehuda said in the name of Shmuel:

<<a butcher

<<who is a craftsman

<<is prohibited

<<to weigh

<<meat

<<in water.

And Rav Chiya bar Ashi said:

<<it is prohibited

<<to make

<<a handle

<<in the meat.

<<Ravina said:

<<and with the hand

<<it is permitted.

Rav Huna said:

<<it is permitted

<<to make

<<a mark

<<in the meat,

<<like this

<<that Rabba bar Rav Huna

<<would cut it

<<into three

<<corners.

Rabbi Chiya

<<and Rabbi Shimon, son of Rebbi,

<<would weigh

<<portion

<<against

<<portion

<<on Yom Tov.

<<Like whom?

<<Not

<<like Rabbi Yehuda

<<and not

<<like the Rabbis!

<<If

<<like Rabbi Yehuda,

<<but he said:

<<may weigh

<<a person

<<meat

<<against

<<the vessel

<<or

<<against

<<the cleaver —

<<against

<<the vessel,

<<yes;

<<against

<<something

<<else,

<<no!

<<If

<<like the Rabbis,

<<but

<<they say:

<<one may not pay attention

<<to the scale

<<at all!

They

<<acted

<<like Rabbi Yehoshua,

<<as it is taught:

<<Rabbi Yehoshua

<<says:

<<one may weigh

<<portion

<<against

<<portion

<<on Yom Tov.

<<Rav Yosef said:

<<the halacha is

<<like Rabbi Yehoshua,

<<since

<<we learned

<<in Bechoros

<<like him.

As we learned:

<<disqualified

<<consecrated animals —

<<their benefit goes

<<to the Temple treasury,

<<and one may weigh

<<portion

<<against

<<portion

<<with a firstborn.

Abaye said to him:

<<But perhaps

<<it is not so:

<<until here

<<does not

<<say

<<Rabbi Yehoshua

<<here

<<except

<<where there is no

<<degradation of

<<sacred things;

<<but

<<there,

<<where there is

<<degradation of

<<sacred things,

<<no.

Alternatively:

<<until here

<<do not

<<say

<<the Rabbis

<<there

<<except

<<because

<<it does not

<<look

<<like activities

<<of a weekday;

<<but

<<here,

<<where it looks

<<like activities

<<of a weekday,

<<no.

Is that to say

<<that they were particular

<<with each other?

<<But

<<those

<<seven

<<fish

<<that came

<<to the house of Rebbi,

<<and there were found

<<five

<<of them

<<in the house of Rabbi Chiya,

<<and not

<<was particular

<<Rabbi Shimon, son of Rebbi!

Rav Pappa said:

<<throw

<<a man

<<between them:

<<either

<<Rabbi Chiya

<<and Rabbi Yishmael, son of Rabbi Yosei,

<<or

<<Rabbi Shimon, son of Rebbi,

<<and Bar Kappara.

MISHNAH:

<<one may not

<<sharpen

<<the knife

<<on Yom Tov,

<<but

<<he may draw it

<<over

<<another [knife].

GEMARA:

<<Rav Huna said:

<<they taught this only

<<with a whetstone

<<of stone,

<<but

<<with a sharpener

<<of wood

<<it is permitted.

<<Rav Yehuda said in the name of Shmuel:

<<that which

<<you said,

<<of stone

<<is prohibited,

<<we said this only

<<to sharpen it,

<<but

<<to remove

<<its grease

<<is permitted.

<<By implication,

<<with wood

<<even

<<to sharpen it

<<also

<<is permitted.

Some teach it

<<on the latter clause:

<<with wood

<<it is permitted —

<<Rav Yehuda said in the name of Shmuel:

<<that which

<<you said,

<<with wood

<<it is permitted,

<<we said this only

<<to remove

<<its grease,

<<but

<<to sharpen it

<<is prohibited.

<<By implication,

<<with stone

<<even

<<to remove

<<its grease

<<is prohibited.

Some teach it

<<on the Mishnah:

<<one may not

<<sharpen

<<the knife

<<on Yom Tov —

<<Rav Yehuda said in the name of Shmuel:

<<they taught this only

<<to sharpen it,

<<but

<<to remove

<<its grease

<<is permitted.

<<By implication,

<<over

<<another,

<<even

<<to sharpen it

<<also

<<is permitted.

And some teach it

<<on the latter clause:

<<but

<<he may draw it

<<over

<<another —

<<Rav Yehuda said in the name of Shmuel:

<<they taught this only

<<to remove

<<its grease,

<<but

<<to sharpen it

<<is prohibited.

<<By implication,

<<with a whetstone

<<even

<<to remove

<<its grease

<<is prohibited.

Who is the tanna

<<that with a whetstone

<<it is prohibited?

<<Rav Chisda said:

<<not

<<like Rabbi Yehuda.

<<As it is taught:

<<there is no difference between

<<Yom Tov

<<and Shabbos

<<except

<<food preparation

<<alone.

<<Rabbi Yehuda

<<permits

<<even

<<the preparations for

<<food preparation.

Rava said to Rav Chisda:

<<we expound

<<in your name:

<<the halacha is

<<like Rabbi Yehuda.

<<He said to him:

<<may it be the will

<<that all

<<like these

<<matters

<<excellent

<<you expound

<<in my name.

Rav Nechemya, son of Rav Yosef said:

<<I was standing

<<before

<<Rava,

<<and he was