from the joints of

<<his fingers

<<and upward.

They laughed

<<at it

<<in the West:

<<since

<<he does it differently,

<<even

<<with the whole

<<hand

<<too!

<<Rather,

<<Rabbi Elazar said:

<<he blows

<<with his hand,

<<one,

<<and with all

<<his strength.

MISHNAH:

<<Beis Shammai

<<say:

<<spices

<<are crushed

<<with a pounder

<<of wood,

<<and salt

<<with a flask

<<and with a wooden

<<ladle.

<<And Beis Hillel

<<say:

<<spices

<<are crushed

<<in their usual way

<<with a pounder

<<of stone,

<<and salt

<<with a pounder

<<of wood.

GEMARA:

<<According to all

<<at least,

<<salt

<<requires

<<a change.

<<What is the reason?

<<Rav Huna

<<and Rav Chisda —

<<one

<<said:

<<all

<<pots,

<<all of them,

<<need

<<salt,

<<but not

<<all

<<pots

<<need

<<spices;

and one

<<said:

<<all

<<spices

<<lose

<<their flavor,

<<but salt

<<does not

<<lose

<<its flavor.

What is [the difference]

<<between them?

<<There is

<<between them

<<where he knows

<<what

<<pot

<<he wants

<<to cook;

<<or

<<with saffron.

Rav Yehuda said in the name of Shmuel:

<<all

<<things that are crushed

<<are crushed

<<in their usual way,

<<and even

<<salt.

<<But

<<you said

<<salt

<<requires

<<a change!

<<He

<<said [it]

<<like

<<this

<<tanna,

<<as it is taught:

<<Rabbi Meir said:

<<did not

<<disagree

<<Beis Shammai

<<and Beis Hillel

<<about

<<things that are crushed,

<<that they are crushed

<<in their usual way

<<and salt

<<with them;

they did not

<<disagree

<<except

<<about crushing it

<<by itself,

<<for Beis Shammai

<<say:

<<salt

<<with a flask

<<and with a wooden

<<ladle,

<<for roasting,

<<but

<<not

<<for a pot;

<<and Beis Hillel

<<say:

<<with any

<<thing.

<<With any

<<thing

<<can it enter your mind?

<<Rather,

<<say:

<<for any

<<thing.

Rav Acha Bardela said

<<to his son:

<<when

<<you crush,

<<tilt [the pestle]

<<well

<<and crush.

<<Rav Sheshes

<<heard

<<the sound of

<<a pestle;

<<he said:

<<this

<<is not

<<from inside

<<my house

<<it is.

But perhaps

<<they tilted it?

<<For he heard it,

<<that was

<<clear

<<its sound.

<<But perhaps

<<spices

<<they were?

<<Spices —

<<is muffled

<<their sound.

The Rabbis taught:

<<one may not

<<make

<<tisni,

<<and one may not

<<pound

<<in a mortar.

<<Two [rulings]?!

<<This is what

<<it says:

<<why

<<may one not

<<make

<<tisni?

<<Because

<<one may not

<<pound

<<in a mortar.

Then let it say:

<<one may not

<<pound

<<in a mortar!

<<If

<<it taught

<<‘one may not

<<pound

<<in a mortar’,

<<I would have said:

<<these things apply

<<with a mortar

<<that is large,

<<but

<<with a mortar

<<that is small,

<<say

<<it is fine —

<<it teaches us [otherwise].

But it is taught:

<<one may not

<<pound

<<in a mortar

<<that is large,

<<but

<<one may pound

<<in a mortar

<<that is small!

<<Abaye said:

<<when

<<is taught

<<also

<<our Baraisa,

<<a mortar

<<that is large

<<is taught.